The Painter's Keys Community For Artists

Search the Painter's Keys:

« Shibui

· previous clickback ·

Yes, go ahead, share this clickback:

Art and Happiness »

· next clickback ·


  • Love Letters to Art

    About the book

    Cost: $65.00 (USD or CAD) shipping included.

    To purchase by check/money order, make payment to: Robert Genn and send it to: The Painter's Keys, 12711 Beckett Rd., Surrey, BC, V4A 2W9, Canada

    • To purchase with a credit card or PayPal choose your location from the list below and click 'Online Purchase'.




Staffage Printer Friendly Version Print Letter
May 23, 2008

Dear Artist,

"Staffage" is a First Light on Moose Lake<br>acrylic painting<br>16 x 20 inches<br>by Robert Genn by First Light on Moose Lake
acrylic painting
16 x 20 inches
by Robert Genn
historical term for placing people and animals into landscapes. Like many time-worn conventions, there's more to it than meets the eye.

The population of pictures--mainly views, architectural subjects, natural wonders and other general scenes--was once more widespread than it is now. In the 17th century, some Dutch painters actually employed other artists to put people in. Staffage was used as an aid to composition, a device to show scale, and an opportunity to enliven scenes. Figures were strategically placed, often holding a stick, cane, spear or gun, sometimes together with a lesser person, or a dog or other beast, or even pointing toward the picture's centre of interest. Sometimes a jacket or coat brought colour surprise to a sombre landscape. The Impressionists gave themselves a choice--some went for it, others didn't. These days some photographers dine out on girls in red shorts on foreground rocks. In current landscape painting, Nature is more likely to be unpopulated. This, of course, will change.

Some landscape painters, dead and alive, don't do convincing figures. People are a tough order. But there's more to it than that. With the rise of rugged individualism and the concept of "me first," it is often the viewer who feels the need to supply the figure. Living in someone else's world is not our style anymore. It's not the wealthy lord in the big hat who gazes at the Sphinx, it's us. The wonders of Egypt are now theoretically available to all. The idea of other people enjoying the architecture in Piazza San Marcos in Venice is more the business of illustration. Pennies drop silently in the minds of onlookers. Due to the widespread suspicion of sentiment, anecdote itself has become distrusted and suppressed.

Next time you think about putting in a figure or figures, think about what's pulling you around. Early this morning I painted a tranquil lake in the Western Canadian foothills. I couldn't prevent myself from putting a couple of guys and a dog out there in a yellow rowboat. The devil made me do it. I'll never know whether I made the painting better or worse. Despite the modern plastic boat, this morning's painting looks curiously old fashioned.

Best regards,

Robert

PS: "I'm done with girls on rocks." (Maxfield Parrish, 1950)

Esoterica: I know it's a bit to ask of many artists, but I'm a believer in understanding your "genre." Genre means your kind or art, your style, your times. At first, the human body was the only subject matter worthy of paint. When the grand landscape showed up, figures, clothed and not, were reduced to accessories. Then the figure burst back to prominence and became the main subject again. These days, a lot of honour is being paid to the spirit of Nature herself, bereft of mankind and even the hand of man. Some sort of longing or wish, I'm thinking. Niagara Falls is her own subject again. A few more years and once more it'll be the little guy going over her in a barrel.

Staffage featured responsesFeatured Responses

Most Recent
Live Comments

in the following clickbacks


Add live comment

Most Live Comments

in the following clickbacks

Premium Artists


Premium Artists





Personal staffage
by Diane Voyentzie, CT, USA


Your letter was curiously timely. Morning in Paradise<br>original painting by Diane Voyentzie Morning in Paradise
original painting
I am a muralist, and am finishing up a pastoral dining room mural. Today I painted the client couple in a canoe on a river on one wall of the mural, on the other wall I painted their two dogs and their children - the girl catching butterflies, and the little boy catching a fish. They were thrilled by the personal "staffage"! It is interesting that sheep, cows, even swans can give life to murals that otherwise are rather uninteresting, even if well painted. I have not added people to my canvas murals, but I think your people in the canoe are fabulous!


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Humour in the details
by Petra Voegtle, Munich, Germany


First Haleakala<br>original painting by Petra Voegtle Haleakala
original painting
of all - I like it. It adds a narrative element to the serenity of the landscape. Landscapes are often overwhelming in their beauty, to add people like these in a boat makes it more "humane," showing that you can enjoy the beauty of an early morning without feeling that you are so inferior in the universe. You can take part without feeling guilty. The landscape is there to really see and enjoy. "Carpe Diem" would be my motto of a day such as this. Landscapes without people often emanate that feeling of being "untouchable" and "un-real." People in a painting can take this down to earth again.

In Haleakala- detail<br>original painting by Petra Voegtle Haleakala- detail
original painting
one of my landscape paintings I added people to a magnificent landscape in order to make people step near and look at the details. It was supposed to add a little humorous element to the grandiosity of the scene. I painted the tiny couple of hikers with a magnifying glass and it was a lot of fun doing this. You would only recognize this couple if you stepped very near to the painting.


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Unpopulated painting
by Trish Booth, Cordova, NM, USA


I painted for years Painted Desert<br>oil painting by Trish Booth Painted Desert
oil painting
suffering comments such as, "but there are no PEOPLE in your paintings." Of course not, my paintings are not about people but what we've imagined, what we've left, what we've created.

My paintings do not require people; I think that is too easy. My paintings are about what people have built or what they revere or what they may yet spoil. Lots more there, I think, than body language--available, so understood, so analyzed, and very, very tired. I prefer something a bit more cerebral and, hopefully, open to interpretation and even a bit mysterious.


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


A sense of humanity
by Jeffrey Hessing, Nice, France


Twenty five years<br>Jeffrey Hessing painting in his Shanghai studio
Jeffrey Hessing painting in his Shanghai studio
ago when people looked at my landscapes they very often commented, "Why don't you put a figure in it, or a house?" It happened so often that I began to think people were disturbed by pure landscape. It is a little too abstract for a figurative painting. A figure, animal or even a house or cottage give more than focus and a sense of scale. They give a sense of humanity, of belonging. Though I greatly admire Corot's ability to paint a man in a landscape with a few simple strokes, I have continued, with a few exceptions, to paint people-less landscapes.

Ironically in the last couple days I have had the urge. I am painting in a series of gardens on a lake in China which are peopled with gardeners in blue shirts and round pointed straw hats. Two days ago I included a wooden boat rowed by a man with one big oar standing up in the traditional manner. I couldn't resist.


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


A reflection of self
by Jack Dickerson, Hingham, MA, USA


Why people? I started Rigoletto by Jack Dickerson Rigoletto painting with people. Crazy, I know. It just happened. I had to do a lot of sketches to work out the forms. They are incredibly difficult. The articulation of elbows, knees, arms and especially hands can be incredible. I am now quite sure that they represented a very difficult stage in my life, when I was going through a huge transition - from running a successful business to becoming an artist. These portraits were raw, unadorned, full of emotion, powerful, proud, with a lot of dignity - and pain. For me, my people have always shown emotion. They are an expression of emotion. My own. It took me a while to see this, and to see what was going in my life when I did them.


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Connecting with the viewer
by Tatjana Mirkov-Popovicki, Coquitlam, BC, Canada


Now that you made Cherry Tree, Stanley Park<br>acrylic painting by Tatjana Mirkov-Popovicki Cherry Tree, Stanley Park
acrylic painting
me think about it, I have used figures in landscapes as a tool to provide the scale and relationship between the humans and the nature. Our emotional reaction to the scene can be altered by introducing a human presence. I see that this tool isn't used very often but I wouldn't call it old fashioned. Perhaps less explored. As a viewer, I feel that I take more ownership and responsibility for the landscape that contains people. I ask myself more questions rather than just analyze the scene. When I think back I find that it is easier for me to recall paintings by other artists if they contained a human figure. This is probably just a personal preference.


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Undoing the staffage
by Diane Overmyer, Wakarusa, IN, USA


I couldn't resistPhotoshopped First Light on Moose Lake<br>original by Robert Genn
Photoshopped First Light on Moose Lake
original by Robert Genn
putting an image of your painting into Photoshop and removing the boat with its passengers. I then opened both the original and the altered image. As I clicked from one to another, it became very evident to me that by adding the yellow boat, you not only changed the composition, you changed the focal point. When I looked at the unpopulated landscape, the painting was all about the place: the time of day, the location of the scene, the peacefulness of the moment. In contrast, your original version made me think much more about the figures in the boat - were they heading out, or perhaps back into shore. If they were fishing, their dog must be trained well to keep quiet. What was the relationship between the two people - friends, grandparent and child? I don't think it is a matter of wrong or right, it is more a matter of what was the artist's intent.

One thing that one of my art professors once told me was that no matter how small a person is in a painting, or how simplified, they had better be done without flaw, because any figure instantly becomes the focal point. I feel my little experiment just reinforced that theory.


Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Literary staffage
by Tom Disch, New York, NY, USA


Writers often have the same problem in reverse. They've got a lot of characters in situations they don't want to be bothered depicting this is because they lack "landscape" skills. One thing Hemingway did really well (and Hardy too) was to create scenery for his characters that was neither too generic (table, window) nor too distracting (kitchen sink and all the dishes in it). Every detail should have some reason for being noticed. Often the necessity for this will lead not just to a better-furnished fiction but to a truer larger vision of the world. Might not staffage serve the same purpose?


Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


People not timeless?
by Nancy Bea Miller, Philadelphia, PA, USA


I have a friend Community Pool<br>oil painting by Nancy Bea Miller Community Pool
oil painting
who shows at a well-known gallery in a major city. Her gallery director actively discourages her from including people in her landscape paintings. He tells her he believes the work is more "universal" without the human presence. I suspect he believes that it is more saleable! I have heard corporate art consultants lay it out as well: if they can't get large-scale abstract paintings in attractive colors, then they want large-scale landscapes devoid of people. This way they say that they can avoid offending people who may not like seeing other people of a certain race, or age, or dress style (which also dates over time of course!) This seems a little short-sighted, safety-conscious and sad to me. Art as corporate wallpaper. An example to ponder: how would we like Brueghal's paintings without the people he includes? Yeah, their clothes certainly date them to a certain time period, but they are also as universal as all get-out.


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Sentiment or fear?
by Jada Rowland, UK


Fear (which seems Homeward bound by Jada Rowland Homeward bound to be a dominating emotion these days) may, indeed, be at the bottom of this lack of people ('staffage' sounds too non-participatory for how I view people) in paintings of nature. One fear is that of humankind's effect on nature. It seems that we are not, as was once thought by the Europeans who came to 'conquer' America, the keepers of the dominion but, rather, the destroyers. So there is a valid fear of the loss of the environment (and perhaps our survival as a species) and the desire to show what little still exists. Is this a desire to awake 'feeling' in ourselves or others about what we may lose? Or to make us feel 'sentiment' toward trees?


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Painterly critique
by Karen Cohen


The figures you added Freefall<br>original painting by Karen Cohen Freefall
original painting
to the painting are small and non-specific. As a result, they are easily identified with if you're the kind of person who is likely to be found in that boat, or someone who would might wish they could be. It would also appeal to those who yearn for the natural landscape but don't expect or feel the need to have it all to themselves.

As to the technical merits of the painting, you trusted your instincts which I think were spot on. The little yellow boat and the orange reflection are contrapuntal to the blue patch of hills between the trees, and perfectly balances your color composition. However, as good as it is, your figures are not wearing yellow or orange shirts, so the reflection in the water is a mystery. The rest of the painting doesn't tell me that magic or mysticism or spiritualism was your intent, so the orange reflections look out of synch.


Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Staffage needs proper placement
by Janet Vanderhoof, Morgan Hill, CA, USA


I love the boat with the dog The lake<br>original painting by Janet Vanderhoof The lake
original painting
and people, placed in your painting. It gives it mystery. The angle of the boat and the dog on the end leads you into the painting. Also, I ask myself, where are they going? It gives the painting personality and it reminds me of the famous Winslow Homer's Adirondack series.

I had a situation, when doing a commission for my brother-in-law. He wanted a painting for his wife of the place in Tahoe they loved to go to every summer. I did paint the painting with her husband in the boat on the water, not a large image, but a suggestion. When I was about to put the children on the shore, the painting could not handle it. It was too much and the painting became something else. I tried many times and finally I had to scrape it off. It was too much for the painting. It wasn't about the children. If I put them in, it would become an illustration and tell a story. Painting is not about telling stories. It is about emotion and feeling. His wife wanted me to add the children in it. I told her I would paint her a different painting, but this one could not handle it. Not being an artist, I think she still didn't understand.


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Most popular image with figure
by Caroline Simmill, Scotland


One of my most popular <br>original painting by Caroline Simmill
original painting
paintings which became produced as a print had a figure walking along the beach. It wasn't my favourite painting and I have always been surprised that it was liked so much and the print sold more than any of my other images. I did notice in your painting First light on Moose Lake that the figures in the boat became the centre piece of interest. What I did find interesting was the use of a strong yellow colour for the boat - the result being that one could not help but notice the boat. I do wonder that if you used a more subtle green or brown coloured boat the painting would have taken on a very different look. There will be many who will love this painting, it is full of life and colour and the imagery is that of a happy boating trip. I would say there are many who could identify with this activity of setting out across the great lake in a boat with their dog. I would also say there are many of us who would simply love to gaze at such a painting and wish that we were there!


Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Staffage steals spotlight
by Frank


I learned that people, animals, and man-made objects, especially those of curious nature such as antiques, in that order, can certainly add a lot to a painting. In fact so much they will steal the spotlight from the center of interest. That being because they are so much more interesting and compelling than the myriad trees, rocks, and other common elements in a landscape. That said, I try to remember to keep these features within the center of interest and make them a part of it. If an old barn was my perceived center of interest, and I place a person walking down the road to the barn, I had better not place her away from the line of sight of the barn. Otherwise the viewer's eyes might be darting left and right and cause enough discomfort to avoid further viewing.

As for your rowboat, are you testing us? Apart from placing the horizon line dead center, the left side of the painting is dark, overpopulated, and weighty. You were careful to place the figures in the line of sight of the most interesting portion of the painting, but the right side appears empty and out of balance. Since I am a watercolorist, when that happens, I take it to the paper cutter and remove a few inches from the right--fixes it right up! I'm certain you did it on purpose to see if we were paying attention. If not, my sincerest apologies as I am a long standing admirer.


Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Staffage is exclamation point!
by Carolyn Edlund, Poughkeepsie, NY, USA


First Olana<br>original painting by Carolyn Edlund Olana
original painting
Light on Moose Lake
is lovely, made more so by the exclamation point of staffage (meaning that the people, dog, boat, add interest, a little punch of color, and make the scene wonderful in its own right, that bit more exciting and dynamic). As for appearing old fashioned, your style, to my eye, in execution and palette, is modern realist, so although there is tradition in the inclusion of two men in a boat with retriever, the overall look is current. Kudos!

I enjoy both artist- and viewer-populated (imagination) landscapes and from time to time, people my landscape paintings. From a sales perspective, the practice has both helped and hindered.


Website Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend


Staffage gives meaning to landscape
by Jacquie Manning


I think Canal Gazing - Venice<br>watercolour painting by Jacquie Manning Canal Gazing - Venice
watercolour painting
of Varley who, pretty much the only one of the Group of Seven, painted lots of figures into his landscapes. What I particularly like about these was the way he integrated his figures into the landscape so they seemed to be part of that particular landscape. I think of him painting his wife Maud on the rocks of the shore; totally at one with the landscape she was standing in. Varley mirrored the colours and shapes of the surrounding landscape in the figure of Maud. To my mind, these paintings make the landscape much more dynamic. Winslow Homer placed grizzled men in rowboats in his amazing watercolours of the forest. To me, having figures in landscapes, cityscapes, whatever, gives meaning to the landscape itself. It says, "What exactly does this landscape say to me? What does this landscape have to do with me?" Homer's dead deer draped over the bow of a boat may not particularly appeal to me but it does put into perspective the time and places Homer painted in and elicits a response from me, the viewer.


Email Add Comment Share this letter with a friend




World of Art Featured artist Brian Alfred, Brooklyn, NY, USA

Premium Artists

The above is a selection of random Premium Artists. Use the arrows to scroll through. Click any thumbnail image to enlarge and click any name to view the artist's Premium Art Listing.


Please feel free to comment. We will include your email address and illustrate your work if we can. If you wish to write incognito we will honor that too. All unused letters are carefully archived for possible future use. We generally include ten or so letters in each "clickback" so you can expect about the same amount of reading. Readers appreciate knowing where you are located and what your work looks like. We edit most letters for clarity and brevity and are able to translate from other languages. Please address your letters to rgenn@saraphina.com. If your comments miss out being included, you can get instant gratification by submitting to Live comments directly below. Live comments, unfortunately, cannot be illustrated at the present time.

You may be interested to know that artists from every state in the USA, every province in Canada, and at least 115 countries worldwide have visited these pages since January 1, 2008.

That includes Mrs. Munn who wrote: "Perhaps you should have used a little red canoe with a lone occupant in a big hat..."

And also Sue Williams of Port Elizabeth, South Africa who wrote: "I think the yellow boat and occupants add a focal point and interest to the painting. I love the reflections and water surface you have in the painting."

And also Sharon Cory of Winnipeg, MB, Canada who wrote: "It looks like a Ducks Unlimited print. Better without, I think."

And also Chi Chi Singler of Seattle, WA, USA who wrote: "I love the folks in the boat! Allows me to be there, in the same way characters in a play allow the audience to feel things they might not otherwise feel."

And also Gail Hodgson of Kelown, BC, Canada who wrote: "It's the 'yellow' boat that bugs my eye - I would prefer if the boat/trio were 'barely there' with subdued color."

And also Katherine Harris of Bracciano, Italy who wrote: "You wrote 'these days some photographers dine out on girls in red shorts sitting on rocks.' Is that some Canadian slang? I'm American, but have lived in Italy for over 40 years, and am out of touch with current usage."

And also Donna Clark of the UK who wrote: "However, I feel like the whole composition is lop-sided somehow. So much weight is on the left side of the canvas where the boat is. I would be interested in reading other's and your response to the lopsidedness issue."

And also Ted Pankowski of Woodinville, WA, USA who wrote: "You're also lucky! It might have turned out corny. Let us all periodically thank the gods of painting!"

And also Lori Farmer of Brandon, MS, USA who wrote: "Robert, I'm glad the devil tempted you. The boat, people and dog are fine. They belong there. I can hear the dog panting, the guys talking about who's going to catch the first, biggest and last fish, and I can hear the clunk of the oars on the side of the boat and as they plunge into the water. Well done."

And also Richard Mason of Pittstown, NJ, USA who wrote: "If I was an impulse buyer I'd have to whip out the plastic and make the purchase, or just attempt to do one like it myself. Thanks for asking what I think."

And also Jan Campbell of New Port Richey, FL, USA who wrote: "I have several oil paintings that my grandmother made in the '50s. They are very nice pieces except for the fact that she didn't prepare the canvas properly. They are starting to flake. Is there any way I can preserve them myself?"

And also Jim Larwill who wrote the poem: "First Light on Moose Lake"

Figures in landscape, reflect this landscape,
soft oar echo soothing our struggles to paint
lakes pristine silent in golden slick nativity.

Beginnings mock this anticipation of our end:
barren wind frozen teeth swallows old-timer's
dog seeing death, as we row away from shore.

Morning glow galvanizes a metallic moment,
where all at once the cobalt of oil dark water
shimmers sudden from a bright horizon flash.


If you think a friend or fellow artist may find value in this material please feel free to forward it. This does not mean that they will automatically be subscribed to the Twice-Weekly Letter. They have to do it voluntarily and can find out about it by reading our Welcome Letter.



Live Comments

You are invited to add your opinions or further information to Staffage...

From: David Lobenberg -- May 22, 2008

The people in the boat in Robert's painting look just fine and are as natural to the scene as is the lake, beach, rocks, and trees. Hmmm...people, boat, beautiful alpine lake... don't they all go together?!

From: Kari Brinck -- May 22, 2008

I was instantly drawn into the painting wanting to look closer at the people in the boat feeling a part of the ride in the fresh dewy morning air, just like my childhood memories from the Norwegian fjord I spent my summers at. I loved the people and the boat, yes, a bit old fashioned but so what?

From: Jo Allan -- May 22, 2008

Love the yellow rowboat! Brings life to the painting!!!!

From: Collette Lacey -- May 22, 2008

Dear Robert,
I covered the figures and the scene went static and ordinary. Adding the figures again and the sunshine of an early morning just leapt out. It gained a lot of atmosphere, as though the cool freshness of an early morning was immediately part of your work. I've been on a lake in the clean early light and the figures bring that in...I vote to keep them there.

From: Nancy Essman -- May 22, 2008

If the devil made you do it....then perhaps you should let him have his way every once in a while. If not...well, whoever or whatever provoked you to paint "them in" certainly added something quite lovely!

From: Ron Wilson -- May 22, 2008

'Like the yellow dinghy thingy. More staffage from you... Incidentally I found a gem of a Genn in the new Mercurio Gallery in Victoria BC - vintage 1969, before the 'style' kicked in. You CAN go home again, Robert!

From: Patricia Neil Lawton -- May 22, 2008

Dear Robert,
We just met (for the third time in 25 years) tonight again at your successful Art Show at the Hambleton Gallery. I was the woman who got so much enjoyment out of visiting with "Dorothy". Remember, I brought my student "Kaitlyn" with me and she was totally thrilled at meeting a man she'd been hearing about from me for the three years that she's been my student. I am a painter of people and their "doings" and so want to tell you that I really am delighted with your painting with the yellow boat and figures in it. It makes the painting "for me". I'd like to thank you for the visit at your exhibition. The evening was a delight and was made more so as it was Kaitlyn's first vist to an art show. I'm glad it was yours and she will be forever impressed with this memory her whole life through. It's so important that we help to educate our youngsters in a creative way. Creativity is such a "passion".

From: Loraine Wellman -- May 22, 2008

The figures add life to the painting. some paintings are much better with people. I like street scenes with people - without, they make me think there has been a disaster. With gardens, however, I've had people tell me they want the painting to be their own private garden - no people invading their territory. Drawing the human figure is good practice for every artist - no matter what your usual subject is. You can distort a tree and still have it be a tree - but drawing a person demands careful looking and correct proportions- and then you can put people into a painting when they are needed.

From: Ujwala Prabhu -- May 22, 2008

A human element adds interest in a painting for me. I think the 3 people add to this painting. Just my opinion. :D Thank you for writing these letters. I look forward to them.

From: Charlotte B DeMolay -- May 22, 2008

Human nature is too narcissist to abandon the figure in landscapes. We are instantly curious as to what the figures are doing, would we want to do that, can we do it better, etc.

There are beautiful landscapes but the landscape will always be static...add figures and suddenly there is motion, action, kinetic feedback. Much more than simply a "point of interest," the figure becomes an instant story automatically engaging us.

From: Chris -- May 23, 2008

I normally don't like people in paintings; animals, yes, but not people; I prefer the wildness of Nature without people tramping all over it, so to speak. On the other hand it depends very much on what the subject is; I guess a city scene would be odd without them. I like this painting however, with the boat and occupants included....perhaps it's to do with the fact that the boat colour is linked to the sky. But even without, it's a lovely tranquil view.

From: Lanell Penrod -- May 23, 2008

It has all been said before...the figure is "in", enjoy reading your letters.

From: Brenda Robson -- May 23, 2008

I think the figures work because of the fact that their features are blurred so we are not drawn to them so much as their shape and placement. Very nicely designed.

From: Carsten Groa -- May 23, 2008

Dear Robert. The only thing I would like to shoot at is the title, Shouldn't your picture have been called "Yellow Boat on Moose Lake" or another shot, you could have painted a dark muted red boat. Kind Regards. Carsten

From: Steve Randall -- May 23, 2008

Your placement of figures in a boat almost worked. The figure in the stern is too big for the size of the boat, and the water reflection suggests the boat is not moving, while the oars apparently are. I often have similar problems.

From: Gainor Roberts -- May 23, 2008

I love the people in the boat...it adds a "story" to an otherwise pretty but ordinary picture. My eye is drawn to the reflections in the water before I look at the people and boat...perhaps they are a bit to bright? I have been those people in a yellow dingy rowing out somewhere on many occasions and I can relate to the whole painting because I have been there and done that! Thanks for the interesting commentary on "Staffage" a new term for me, and of course one that I'll have to think about. I think I like people in paintings sometimes and sometimes not...depends on the painting, and of course, as you point out, the skill of the artist in making the people right.

From: Karen R. Phinney -- May 23, 2008

I like the figures in the boat, they add a human touch to the rugged scene... and one that is relaxing to contemplate. Leave 'em in, is my vote! Also love the blue tone of the mountains in the background, which you have picked up in the reflections and the figures and a bit in the shore....

From: Kelley MacDonald -- May 23, 2008

Robert, the figures really 'make' the painting in this case. The scenery is beautiful, but there's nothing compelling about it. The figures in the boat give the painting a narrative, allow the viewer to insert themselves into the painting. The inclusion of the boast turns the painting from 'just another landscape' to an invitation to participate in this particular landscape at this particular time. Beautiful.

From: Theresa Bayer -- May 23, 2008

The figures in the boat look great, it gives the painting a focal point and a sense of narrative. I don't think the devil made you do it, I think the painting made you do it. Paintings are always worth listening to.

From: Elaine Bailey -- May 23, 2008

While I like your lake painting, for me, the addition of people is an invasion of my "beautiful solitude" when I view the painting. But--with that said---I'm not much on portraits of people or photos with people (unless it's a deliberate photo of someone) in them. Thanks for all your good comments and ideas.

From: Robin Maria Pedrero -- May 23, 2008

I like the boat with the people included in this particular piece of art work. I immediately went into the boat and peered down into the lovely water you painted.

From: Joan Hofman -- May 23, 2008

The painting for "Staffage" could easily be posted on a very well known mail order catalog cover...it speaks to an era gone by.One has to wonder how much artists are influenced either unconsciously or otherwise by the collective mass' marketing desires.

From: Linda M. Adams -- May 23, 2008

As a non fisherwoman, every time I see "guys in a boat" - as opposed to "girls on rocks", I am turned off. This particular staffage would keep me from buying the painting - but maybe that's because I just don't fish! Thanks for bringing it up - helpful as usual!

From: Stephanie Goff -- May 23, 2008

The painting is great both ways (figures or not), but I think the use of boat and figures gives it more of a point of interest. It relaxes the mind to have a human connection. Nice work in my opinion.

From: Michelle -- May 23, 2008

I like this style. I am not the sort to enjoy painting in rigid format and you are right people are difficult and I have not achieved that level of skill. On the other hand I am mostly alone where ever I go and sometimes there are no people. I believe people like to get away when they look at a painting, to another plane of thought or feeling and sometimes people can provoke this feeling but not necessarily all the time, for instance I find the people distracting and annoying.

From: Mitchell Torok -- May 23, 2008

It depends on what you had in mind... a serene, still and quiet peaceful time for the viewer... or one that takes the viewer back in the picture and wakes up his or her childhood memories... and that's him or her in the boat... with their dad... so either way the viewer wins! It's a very nice painting!

From: Patricia Watkins -- May 23, 2008

The boat was a distraction to me. It surely became the focal point. Without that boat the scene was purely tranquil. I guess I prefer to insert myself in the scene, as you said, in my imagination. Other people are always a distraction to me when I am in the wilderness. I like the idea of looking across that stretch of water to the houses on the other side and imagining that I am "far from the madding crowd." It is a beautiful painting nonetheless. I think I agree with you. It must have been a temptation to place it there, but one that perhaps you regret because we do need peace and solitude. One would wish they were there, thus the temptation. Thank you for sharing. I always look forward to reading your letters each day with my cup of coffee before my students begin the mad rush of the day!

From: Melissa E. Keyes -- May 23, 2008

Most Humans do seem to be fascinated with Humans. Have you been looking at Winslow Homer's works lately?

From: Lenore Barnett -- May 23, 2008

Like so many others, especially in the earlier thread, I really enjoyed the Devil Made You Do It addition. The figures caught my attention immediately. I too covered them up to see what would happen and found a more tranquil and beautiful scene but without the dynamism of the rowboar and figures.

From: Nancy -- May 23, 2008

I like the figures. It is interesting, how covering the figures with the thumb really changes the mood of the painting. I think the painting has more impact without them, although maybe it's just that it's a different emotion.

From: Susan Holland -- May 23, 2008

If the boat and people were smaller and indistinct it would be kept on the level of "reflections and vagaries" rather than becoming a "subject." I like evidence of animate creatures, but not if they steal the show.

From: Janet Sellers -- May 23, 2008

Hi, it's me again. I love the boat and the figures! They bring a light heart to the dreary, sad trees. You often put those trees in your work, and they look so tragic to me. Instead of thinking that the trees have a rough life in the harsh climate, I can participate in the glee the fishermen must have in their outing. The yellow boat is perfect.

From: Nancy -- May 23, 2008

Alas, I think it looks old fashion and a little corny, so sorry.

From: Thelma Leonard -- May 23, 2008

The only thing missing in the Moose Lake picture is a loon over near the point of land on the right. Love that picture. Reminds me of some lakes I knew in New Hampshire, USA

From: Tinker Bachant -- May 23, 2008

The boat is perfect. Having been brought up in the Catskills, and on a lake, it truly made me homesick. The proportions are fine. If you have ever actually seen a boat with people in it there would not be any nit-picking over the size (or the ripples from the oars). The trees are fir trees or maybe hemlocks, in shadow. Dreary? Walk in the forest sometime and tell me that these majestic giants are dreary!

From: Antonija -- May 23, 2008

Well--I like the painting. The boat and figures are lit in a way that really conveys the joy of a brightening sunrise. I don't think that feeling would be there without them.
Also--just want to mention how much I enjoy reading your essays. I haven't painted in years, as I've become enamored with quilting and fiber arts. After receiving your letters, I feel as though I am ready to emerge from my studio once more. I'll just grab my paints, trot out to a nearby park, and try my hand at plein air again! Thank you for that.

From: Connie McCoy -- May 23, 2008

Your addition of the people gave an instant point of focus and a participatory element. Some viewers cannot get into the painting unless they can see a person in the painting with whom to identify. You have incorporated the boat people beautifully with the addition of yellow in other places. I don't think it makes it better, but I have found people say to me, "Thank you for putting a person in that landscape." Without the boat people in your painting, it is more serene and has a different message.

From: David White -- May 23, 2008

Robert, I like the rowboat. Thanks for the thought provoking jabs twice a week. I think the 2 guys the dog and the rowing make the picture move and brings the viewer into the place. People are hard. I prefer gulls!

From: Raymond Mosier -- May 23, 2008

When I read your letter on staffage and the description of your painting I expected something different than what I saw. I think the picture was about people in a boat embarking on an adventure in the north woods. What wonderful and new sights they would discover. Would they face danger in a desperate situation? All kinds of senarios are possible. A certain degree of mystery and suspense is present.

Your initial description, to paraphrase, was of remote lake in the wilderness, but as soon as you added people, they became the "purpose" of the painting. The added figures in the boat, especially the direction the boat is going, into the scene, becomes the theme of the painting and that is what makes the painting work. Without the boat and figures, the subject of the painting loses interest.

From: Nicole Hyde -- May 23, 2008

To staff or not to staff? Whatever floats your boat.

From: Lynn Quinn -- May 23, 2008

I like the boat & figures. It adds interest. Love the yellow in the reflections picking up yellow from the rocks & sky.

From: Elaine Cain -- May 23, 2008

Those guys in the yellow rowboat are perfect. Shapes are believable. The color yellow accents the blues and violets of the painting.

From: Kenneth Flitton -- May 23, 2008

I like the boat, men and dog. Well done and better than if they weren't there.

From: Celeste Varley -- May 23, 2008

Your staffage of the yellow boat is brilliant in this painting. My immediate reaction was a satisfying pulling together of the yellow sky and yellow-orange foreground rocks in an arc shape. The oars give a good excuse to show orange reflection in dark water too. Then, I sense the setting (?) sun off canvas on the right as source of this feast of colour touches.

From: Adonica Kechemir -- May 23, 2008

Personally, I prefer the addition of the people in the boat. I think people always enhance art, and only enhance the feeling or message presented. All of my art is about the people in it and the landscape is only secondary. After all, what's a tranquil lake without someone enjoying it? It tells more of a story when people and animals are added. Most of the world's beloved art revolves around people, like The Last Supper, the Mona Lisa, the Lady of Shallot, etc. Art is a buffet for the eyes, and the more the better. Without staffage, I would consider it only half done.

From: Dawn Cosmos -- May 23, 2008

I watch the sunrise each a.m. and feel you have captured its essence in the exquisite light of your painting. I too wanted to be in the same boat. Love the work of your last two featured artists as well. Let Pantheism reign......write about that one?

From: Jackie -- May 23, 2008

The boat and occupants capture the light. Beautiful addition!

From: Marjory Sampson -- May 23, 2008

I love your painting and the boat with people adds life to it. I think the boat needs to be a tiny bit larger according to the size of the people. Most times in my paintings, I try to add some life by making a few birds flying in the distance if there are no people.

From: Verena Heroux -- May 23, 2008

"First Light on Moose Lake" is beautiful. The eye goes straight to the men on the boat if that's your intention, it's the gold colors on the dark background that makes it attracting.

From: Carol -- May 23, 2008

I love your painting and believe the scene would be "lonely" and boring without the fishermen.

From: Gia Kramer -- May 23, 2008

I love your painting and appreciate the dog you placed in it. I think it would have been a great painting anyway but since I love dogs you captured a mood that comes with including a dog.

From: Jeff Tschida -- May 23, 2008

Robert, I like the boat. It adds life and motion, a sense of anticipation.

From: David Ehrmann -- May 23, 2008

Robert, Winslow would praise you for your recent staffage, as do I. Wonderful painting: the early morning light, the flat water and the mood created are blissful.

From: Sue Ennis -- May 23, 2008

I love the "staffage" in your painting. I think it gives it a whole new dimension and evokes a Norman Rockwellish feeling, pulling up memories of the excitement of being near a lake in the early morning. I love the reflections of the clouds in the lake and the joyous colour tones.

From: Mary Atkinson -- May 23, 2008

I think you should take out the figures...they are far less interesting than the rest of the painting and only serve as a distraction...especially the yellow boat!

From: Diana Nicosia -- May 23, 2008

I like the picture w/the people in it. The composition is modern w/o the people and boat. It works!

From: Pat Hill -- May 23, 2008

I like the yellow boat. It’s an ‘instant story.’ Without it the painting is just a pretty scene. Also, I think it adds to the balance of the painting.

From: Mary T. -- May 23, 2008

Concerning the current clickback and the yellow boat, I particularly like the placement as it keeps an off center feeling going for me.

From: Jogn Price -- May 23, 2008

Actually I think the boat and its contents add greatly to your landscape. To me, many landscapes need an animal, man or beast, or something man made to eliminate that "empty" feeling.

From: Tricia@portraitsandprints.com -- May 23, 2008

Great painting! but compositionally it feels a little heavy on the left to me, my eye wants to angle the foreground right hand rocks back into the picture and darken them a touch to balance the weight on the left.

From: Sharon Cory -- May 23, 2008

It looks like a Ducks Unlimited print. Better without, I think. I paint a lot of beach scenes and usually they include people in typical repose positions. Lately I've been painting people the way they really look on the beach, full of lumps and bumps, not too flattering but much more fun. My clients like them too.

From: Gwen Pentecost -- May 23, 2008

Works well, and it seems like its balanced between the story of the guys fishing, and the story of the beauty of the morning! Really nice!

From: Silvia F. Forrest -- May 23, 2008

I love it! I can almost feel the coolness of the morning air caressing my face as I softly float away with my friends to greet another day. I am not sure I would have been able to place myself so vividly at the scene were it not for the little boat which by the way adds a lovely touch of color to the painting. Besides, what's wrong with old fashioned?

From: Jo Evans -- May 23, 2008

The painting is a very serene and peaceful setting, with wonderful light and another "story painting" which I love... I can't give a professional critique (as if I would critique Robert Genn!) but I feel that the figures definitely define the feeling this painting is meant to convey ...

From: Kelly Paquet -- May 23, 2008

I like the well-placed rowboat and men and dog in the painting. I think it makes the painting more interesting. That's my opinion.

From: VNippert@aol.com -- May 23, 2008

I've been doing landscapes for years and found that they often lacked interest after viewing over a period of time. After pondering this it became clear that by adding a figure or two or three, not only did the painting then have a "scale" for perspective, but it also allowed the viewer to emotionally place himself in the picture as an observer of the scene... Eric Sloan wrote, "I don't paint scenes, I paint memories."

From: Robin Brookes -- May 23, 2008

Figures in the landscape may be passe now, but they add scope and proportion to huge spaces. Without them, you cannot appreciate how big the Grand Canyon is, for example. They also tell you something about the use of the space and contribute to the feeling of it, such as for peace of mind, entertainment, sustenance, struggle or survival. The fact that we have become a drivelling, self-serving, self-focused childish society may be a shame, but there is no reason to bow to it.

From: Alex Nodopaka -- May 23, 2008

Yours was an illuminating article on the subject of staffage. The title of course caught my attention, as I am a stickler for spelling and thought you spoke about stuffing in the manner of George Carlin but then understood emptying the landscape to refill it with action figures of appropriate size. Thank you for making me understand the ways of my subconscious where I reverse the meaning and staffage becomes the main focus. http://www.nodopaka.com

From: Terrie Chrisian -- May 23, 2008

My current art love fits into both staffage and shibui. I am doing abstracts which begin with no plan whatever in mind. I simply begin to lay color onto the paper and play with shapes and changing colors. Then, as it progresses, I begin to see shapes that remind me of faces, critters, etc. As this "staffage" appears, I more fully develop the population with eyes, ears, or whatever else might inform the viewer. Here are a few examples. My last step is to fill in with some black permanent marker and line work. Often with metallics sharpies, and Caran D'Ache. I never know what will appear which is the greatest good fun of it all.

From: Virginia Peck -- May 23, 2008

Yes, I immediately thought Winslow Homer, especially when I first saw it before enlarging, but I like the boat. What does bother me though, is the light blue outline around some of the objects... that feels illustrational to me. Also, I don't care for the rocks w/ the patches of bright color in the foreground... I don't believe them and feel they are distracting.

From: Carole Ann -- May 23, 2008

I think the people and the yellow row boat add a lot to this painting. It is probably a matter of personal taste though. I don't think it looks awkwardly old-fashioned. It's not innovative, but sometimes that is nice. The main thing to me was the distance of the land in the landscape. I prefer flora and fauna at close range. Japanese painters are terrific at making plants come alive. Tortured old men-spirits live in trees, lovely woman-spirits float inside a weeping willow. These landscape artifacts have a story to tell. I've often wondered whether or not the painter also senses the anthropomorphic qualities their subjects seem to offer. The rowboat color yellow seemed a good choice. It adds a bit of dash to the somber quality. Very nice!

From: Jan Bush -- May 23, 2008

The boat is perfect for this picture which lacked real focus. (I thought, but forgive me if I am wrong)

From: Sandra Donohue -- May 23, 2008

I think that we should listen to that little voice inside our head that directs us in our work. In your painting, I don't know what would reflect the first rays of the early morning sun better than the boat with the figures and dog. They are strategically placed and are pointed in the right direction, leading the viewer through the painting. They also don't look like an after-thought. And who am I to judge your work! You get my vote of approval!

From: GK -- May 23, 2008

Thanks. But I like the painting anyway.

From: Jerome Grimmer -- May 23, 2008

This is not a good example of staffage as described in your latest letter. You may have thought of inserting the boat after being inspired by the scene, but as it stands it is THE focal point of the painting. It is not a beautiful sunrise on a lake that happens to have some human activity taking place, it is about an early morning adventure taking place in a breathtaking venue. Bravo.

Removing the boat and people would require completely re-thinking everything else so that a particular part of the landscape becomes the focal point. Definitely do-able, but whether you would wind up with a better painting is debatable. As it stands, the painting is a beauty!

From: Pat Marshall -- May 23, 2008

I think the figures and boat are a great addition. They are a good focal point plus they give a directional push toward the more open right side of the scene. Also, I think that most people respond to the human or animal element in paintings. The painting is better with the figures.

From: Mira M. White -- May 23, 2008

You needed the structure in that part of the painting, regardless of the image. I think it works.
http://www.miraMwhite.com

From: Rick Ormond -- May 23, 2008

Regarding “First Light on Moose Lake”, many people, I think, would imagine those people in the boat to be either themselves or members of their family – so, I like it. I really like the style of painting!

From: Helen Zapata -- May 23, 2008

In looking at your painting of "First Light on Moose Lake", I find I like the figures in the yellow rowboat very much. Without them, it would have been just another painting of a pretty lake scene. The addition of the figures in their boat transforms the painting. It has become a "moment in time" as opposed to just being about "a place". http://www.galleryzapata.com

From: Ian Randell -- May 23, 2008

It depends on what you want your painting to be "about". We are so automatically drawn to people the painting becomes about "people in a landscape" when we add figures. In leaving out the figures the landscape must stand on its own as the primary subject matter.

From: Judy Gorton -- May 23, 2008

I think your painting works both ways. It certainly could stand alone as landscape, but I think it works with the 'staffage' because you added splashes of the yellow on shore and didn't make the humans and boat too big. Just my opinion.

From: Bret -- May 23, 2008

Interesting painting. I think it works with the addition, but you're right - if the boat weren't there, it'd be a much different piece.

From: Bob Horne -- May 23, 2008

I quite like the inclusion of boat, human forms and dog. It really makes the painting interesting and helps set a feel good mood. The warm lighting and reflection from rocks and boat are valuable to this painting. I like it !

From: Laurel Deery -- May 23, 2008

Hi Robert, I do not usually reply to your letters, but you invited feedback so here goes. I like the addition of the people as it does two things for me. One, it draws my attention from the near shore to them and further on to the far shore. Second, the painting feels lonely without them in it. With them, it expresses a warmer moment in time.

From: Melisse Laing -- May 23, 2008

I like the boat with the figures in the painting. It adds interest & enhances the balance of the composition. I wonder if my opinion is